11 years ago today, over 3,000 lives were lost, as well as the freedom and liberty of 300 million Americans due to either an intentional false flag or else due to gross negligence by US authorities.
Rather than The Doc opining his beliefs on what happened that day and igniting a fierce debate between those who believe the official story and those who believe otherwise, we decided to open up this thread to allow readers to remember those lost, take a moment to reflect, and to discuss how those of us who remain can best fight to keep our rapidly deteriorating freedom in what used to be the US of A.
We all can agree that 11 years after 9/11/2001, Freedom is an endangered species in the new USSA.
9/11 OPEN THREAD
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I was doing a CAX at 29 Palms California that morning when a Mech came in and told us. A bunch of us got into a Humvee and we went the main side chow hall to watch on the TV. I saw very clearly, the molten steel pouring out of the corner of the south tower, This was a helicopter shot and was well zoomed in. I thought, What in the hell is in those buildings to cause the columns to melt. The fuel from the jet was burned up in the initial explosion, and could not have caused this molten steel. Then they fell, Then they told me the planes caused the building to fall, and I knew that was BS. I got out shortly after. Though I didn’t know 1% of what I know now, That day always stank. I didn’t feel the need to be patriotic, frankly today’s flag waving makes me sick because the same guys who pulled off 9/11 are still in charge today and they will kill millions more of us if it suits their purpose. By buying Silver and trying to become energy and food self-relient, I’m trying to fight back, Exiting this system and getting other to follow is the most important thing now.
9/11 is the watershed event of our lives. It will stand for all time as a symbol of the evils of the western bankster cabal that attempted to take over the world, and a warning to future generations that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We shall never forget…
The second tallest building dropped through controlled demolition was the Landmark Tower in Fort Worth Tx in 2006. the tallest was??? I dont know— but the second tallest was 30 stories, 1/3 the heigth of WT 1 and 2. What is still amazing is that after the jets hit one side of each building, both buildings dropped straight down after a couple of hours.
Gravity does not work like that.
If you fall a tree you cut into one side with a wedge cut and weaken the other side. It drops in the direction of the wedge. Weaken a very tall structure like a building and you would think that it would topple sideways, not downward like a controlled demo. The work that goes into getting even a 10 story buildng to drop into its foundation requires meticulously placed explosives, small in size and numerous and placed up and down the entire structure. Youtube the Landmark building implosion to see the effects of this demo system. A great deal of work is done prior to the demolition to weaken key supports even to the removal of some support structures so this building drops stright down and not on to someone else’s property.
So how can anyone explain how not one but two 110 story buildings imploded with a precision that probably could not be duplicated with weeks of work on the part of experts like Controlled Demolition. It just does not add up. As YTTT180 notes, the fuel burned up and the damage to the sides of the two buildings should not have caused both buildings to collapse even if there was a great deal of fire loading in the building.
But my main concern is and was the incredible lack of attention to the threat posed by the group that initiated the first World Trade tower attack. In 1993 Sheik ragamuffin, the blind cleric, spearheaded the attack that involved transporting a large amount of explosives in a van deep into the underground parking structure of the World trade center. Even though many people were killed in that attack, I guess that was not enough to get the attention of Bill Clinton that we were in some form of war. The Khobar Towers, USS Cole and the embassy attacks must not have been enough to draw his attention away from Oval Office servicing by zaftig interns. After Billary slinked out of thw WH with the kitchenware the war was left to Bush and his people.
Someone really screwed the pooch by not connecting some very obvious dots regarding the pilots, the flying schools, and obvious nature of the primary targets from intel that was already at hand.
You may recall the young woman who DID connect the dots. She was stonewalled by both the FBI and one of the other 3 letter agencies, NSA or CIA, that were very much in the know about the Saudis who were to pilot the planes into the Pentagon, WT 1 and 2 and the White House. She tried to connect the middle and top level people in these two agencies and was completely shut out of the conversation.
Whether it was a CYA or some really evil people knew what was going to happen, there was culpability in this monumental screwup in communication that allowed the attacks to happen. No one got nailed for dereliction of duty for that huge oversight. In DC if you screw up you move up.
All information about her role in attempting to connect the dots went dark. The PTB went silent and before you knew it we were at war with Afghanistan and Iraq within 6 months. And we know how well that has gone.
I am of the opinion that baby Bush had a real hardon for Hussein. Anyone who constructs a kill list using a deck of cards and then removes them one by one while his military kills them off could be said to have some mental problems.
It’s not much different than Obama with his own personal drone kill list that is used to select the lucky schmuck who gets droned. Tuesday is the drone kill switch selection day. If you live in Pakistan or Yemen Wednesday is always a good day to be hiding in a cave. IMO Obama is even more of a psycho than Bush. But I think the entire DC establishment is filled with sociopaths and worse.
I think that Bush was thrilled by the idea of going into Iraq and finish the job his dad started. Don’t mess with Texans is always a good idea. Since Saddam tried to kill Bush Sr, Baby Bush took it on himself to kill Hussein and his kids, wifes, cousins, uncles, aunts, newphews etc. Try to kill my daddy and I’ll kill your whole family. And he did. Revenge is a dish best served cold? Nah, revenge is hot. Don’t mess with Texans
It has only cost $2 trillion and the lives of 8,000 military personnel along with 50,000 injured. We could have bought off the entire country for 10% of the cost of the war. A lot of people would still be alive and healthy as a result of it.
Pearl Harbor was another set up and don’t get me started on that subject.
Everyone saw the jets in the videos hit those buildings but that’s not all that hit those buildings. Building 7 wasn’t hit by a plane and it fell into it’s own footprint as well later in the day. The BBC was reporting live that building 7 fell while the live shot behind the reporter clearly showed the building still standing. Never have we seen a plane in a video hit the pentagon even though that building has the best security surveillance in the world. If they wanted to convince us of the plane, they certainly would have enough video to choose from. Three skyscrapers fell that day into their own footprints….the first three and only three ever to do this due to fire, in the history of steel framed building techniques. The dust collected from the site has been found to have military grade thermate residue which is used to melt steel quickly. The fallen steel was sent to China pronto without forensic testing and what was left to test showed very unusual properties. Who is kidding who?
To the family and friends of those lost including those lost in the Iraq and Afghanistan, I am so sorry for your loss and I believe most Americans feel that loss too as if it was their own. I am also sorry for our collective loss since 9/11 of our freedom and human rights. I am confident that those who were truly behind this attack will receive their due either here or there.
God bless the families and friends of those who responded to help. The bravery and patriotism in the hearts of those individuals is legendary. I only pray we go forward without any other such events….so far so good.
God bless America!
I worked in the aviation industry for nearly 40 years. If an aircraft hit the twin towers it would break-up and fall into the street.
No aircraft hit the twin towers.
That’s right!
The physics don’t lie—just the MSM and the government. I think that a lot of people know in their hearts that this was planned by “our” government / the cartel scum. But it’s such a heavy, sad idea that I think many people would rather wallow in denial and believe the MSM lies than admit the harsh, nasty, ugly truth. The whole building 7 thing is so effed up. Come to think of it, the whole thing is effed up.
God rest those innocents who lost their souls in what Jim Sinclair calls the biggest bank heist in history—them be fightin’ words, but what he says does make some sense. Conveniently for the scum (I will not call them elite) fear happens to crush the spirit of the people too, which makes it much easier to gradually implement a police state. It’s so sad that people are capable of such things. It’s also so sad that people are so willing to give up freedom so easily.
God Bless America – we sure could use some blessings.
“Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.”
-John Lennon
The stock trading actions alone (ie, shorting of airline stocks before the event) prove that there was foreknowledge of this event before it happened, but the official investigation has revealed nothing of substance.
History shows that it will be a couple of generations (50+ years) before a semblance of the truth is finally revealed by the authorities. It is now known that the US had broken the Japanese code prior to their plans to attack Pearl Harbor during WWII, yet it was decided to let the attacks happen, presumably for the reason of getting the American people to accept entering the war. Yet how many people today care about what happened 50+ yrs ago?
This pretty much sums my thoughts up.
There is good evidence that the planes used on the towers were holographic projections of planes, projected from space satellites on the sodium layer of the earth (60 miles up) which appear to be where they are supposed to be, combined with some high power explosives in the towers. Some of these images (alot on youtube of various things; planes, ufo’s, etc) show disintegration of the image, which reveals that they are not the real objects (all on youtube).
It is important we understand this because these images are being used more and more for different scams, and if there is another false-flag (almost certain to be), the likelihood is that this technology will be used again.
9-11 was done by the jews, imho, the same jews who have actors in politics, media and banking (wellaware1.com), who cause world wars, and global financial crises (Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg, etc), and who suck the life out of USA and the world, while repeatedly betraying her (USS Liberty attack by Israel, 9-11, etc). http://www.davidduke.com/?p=36215
RIP all victims of 9-11, none of which were jews, as all 4000 of them who worked at the WTC were told to stay home that day.
The jews have all sorts of sub-groups, confusion which they use to say, ‘it was the zionists’, or it was the ‘labour jews’. But this is more of their BS, because it’s just the jews.
They have a word for us non-jews – GOYIM, meaning cattle.
davidduke.com
Actually, I’m pretty sure the hologram planes theory is a psyop designed to make all 9/11 conspiracy theories look ridiculous. As for the woogly plane images, I haven’t seen any but it may be down to artifacts of the compression algorithm (for older digital camcorders with low memory) or satellite interference (for things recorded from TV). It happens often enough that there are people who record all the talking heads and search for moments when they start morphing back to their reptilian form if they have gone too long without drinking human blood.
A hologram projected from space would require ridiculous amounts of energy to be visible during the day. Any hologram projected on the sodium layer would be a ghostly monochrome orange-yellow, like the sodium vapor streetlights. Look for UFOs of this color on Dec. 21 (but that’s another story).
Now for some 9/11 links.
Here’s a new video of the WTC7 controlled demolition showing explosions:
Rumsfeld said he never heard of building 7 despite it housing various intelligence agencies that were investigating the biggest Wall Street frauds:
http://beyondthecurtain.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/rumsfeld-what-is-building-7-never-heard-of-that/
This article gets very deep into the frauds and how many alphabet agencies colluded in 9/11. The government is deeply infiltrated by traitors:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9442970/Collateral-Damage-US-Covert-Operations-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-200128062008
An ever-growing list of the hundreds of glitches in the Matrix surrounding 9/11:
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smokingguns.html
9/11 wasn’t just about Israel, war, fascism, and fraud coverup. It was trauma-based mind control programming on a massive scale. A key part of the occult puppetmasters’ war on human consciousness. Here’s how it is done on the individual level:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/illuminati_formula_mind_control.htm
This link also explains how a conspiracy so large can go without whistleblowers. It’s the most fucked up thing ever. Read it and weep.
On that day I believed what the MSM was telling us. What our media did not show us was the vast number of people jumping to their death from the inferno or the scattered body parts lying outside the towers. As the U.S. began the six month ramp up to go back to the Middle East I began to think we were going to war to simulate the economy because we were in a recession although no one admittedly spoke of recession.
False flag?
A lot has been unveiled since that horrible day. TPTB could care less about the middle class
much less those men and women serving in our military; perhaps that is the way it has always been. The middle class has been the backbone of our country and has suffered the most.
My mother told me of the times my father was leaving for WWII & Korea while the upper class
were on the veranda drinking mint juleps. He was a military adviser in Nam in the early 60′s and once told me to stay away from Nam, it was a fcked up war. I never have been fond of the banker types. I know many of them, I just choose not to socialize with them. That said, I would share a Macallan with AG.
Today, I am much more aware and doing everything I can to prepare for what certainly looks like
a rough time to come.
Copy that Sheep Dog Make it a Glenfiddich and you’re on. I’m a blue collar guy with expensive tastes in Scotch. Good thing I don’t drink much—costs too much silver.
Let’s see–false flags and more false flags. The Duke Archibald and Sarajevo in WWI, the attack on Germany by ‘Poland” in WWII, Pearl Harbor, Korean War-Don’t know, Tonkin Gulf, Castro 1 and 2, Grenada and the student hostages, Soviets in Nicaragua, Kuwati gold for Gulf War One, 9-11 for Gulf war Two (Then there that problem with gold in World Trade building 7). Seems that war requires some serious excuses to get the action started.
can anyone explain how there are 50-100 different types of cancer in the 9-11 First responders, firemen, police and bystanders? That can’t explained by dust, asbestos, jet fuel etc. Radiation??? Maybe. I’m need to get my tin foil hat cleaned and blocked.
Doesn’t it seem strange to you that we seldom see pictures of the jets flying to the towers? It’s as if that portion of 9-11 was consigned to the memory hole. Is it possible that these were some sort of CG video shots? If you look at the video of the one jet flying to tower 1 it is almost surreal as it appears to disappear into the building like it was entering another dimension. When People can figure out Obama’s birth cert has airbrushed more than a 50 yr old Playboy centerfold MILF, then maybe there is something to that. We see Dec 7 pictorials of planes bombing ships and Kamikazi fighters crashing on the the decks of the carriers. No worries that it might offend the Japanese people. Ask the Nissei if they were offended after being rounded up by the tens of thousands in WWII. Japan has been a military colony of the US since WWII or so I was told.
It seems to me that the quarter century of rule by Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama could almost be a dynastic power structure set up to wage war on countries in the Middle east and elsewhere. The Republicans and Dems are almost like heirarchical tribes trading off periodically to give the illusion of change. They are almost indistinguishable in their thoughts, words and deeds when it comes to war.
Governments are good at two things
Debasing the currency
Waging War
Central banks profit on financing both.
I remember watching it on the television when I was a kid. I saw a plane crash on the tower and I asked my parents what happened. They told me with a serious face that something bad happened. My one question is why did the 9/11 event that got about 3000 victims killed got more attention in the media than the millions of death caused by US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan?
on that day i actually believed everything i was hearing & watching on television ! thank god for the internet, the truth is found if you look hard enough. i have devoted myself for the past few years researching & learning …… it’s damn bad, people, the truth is damn ugly & being an older person, my eyes are open now & the fear is real, i actually feel like i’m being terrorized by what i know to be real now.
Allright dear people, two main things I like to say.
First is, back in the 90s when NATO was bombing Yugoslavia “humanitarily” that imagery of them bombing a civilian passenger train and how it was being hailed as a great thing. I will never forget that. That was the moment I understood. And cried. Fast forward to Hillary now, praising Al-Qaida terrorist attacks in Syria.
Second is, 9/11. I followed it all on CNN (the world version). I realized very soon it was a crock.
There were explosions in the buildings. Building #7 was not hit but it was “pulled”. Larry Silverstein made a fortune *and* the ENRON files were gone, and supposedly some gold stack down there “evaporated”. Where have we heard that phrase lately. I’m a physicist. Kerosene fires have a certain temperature and it’s not enough to melt steel. Something else was used. The buildings were charged. All had “maintenance” the weeks before. There was a NORAD drill that day playing out the same fucking script that was actuallly occuring and that’s supposed to be why NORAD was out or too late. Supposedly there was a fire so hot that it melted steel and made concrete floors drop like a pancake (impossible) but yet there were these passports that survived and swirled down onto the streets and they were found. Fact is that of the 19 alleged hijackers, 15 were Saudis and some of them are still alive and well. Even the highly political 9/11 commission pointed at many such points.
I will never forget the BBC reporting the WTC7 collapse half an hour too early.
So yes, I’m sad about 9/11, because that was the day that the real terrorists won their first big strike. The second was Lehman/TARP I think.
Best all,
R3K
@ricin3000 – not sure what caused your comment not to post right away, but I just manually published it.
-Doc
NP doc. Deleted my initial reply which was a bit angry.
I was at work at the casino (I repaired electronics in the slot machines and supporting systems) and the casino seriously considered shutting down. Most of the players left to be home with family so the place was a graveyard. Even if the planes actually hit and caused the building failures my question is why were all the air force jets that were scrambled sent out to sea instead of over the city to protect against further attacks? The flight that was supposed to be over the capital was 60 miles out over the Atlantic when the Pentagon was supposedly hit.
So many things that were covered up about this, people who knew in advance were told to shut up or ignored so to me that makes this a planned operation by the US government or at least a faction within the government.
911 was a criminal act carried out by the Project for a New American Century (PNAC). It’s ringleader, Dick Cheney, was calling the shots on 911 while “the decider” was reading My Pet Goat to some school kids. It was Dick Cheney who ordered Norad to stand down. PNAC issued a report stating that they needed a “catastrophic event” similar to Pearl Harbor in order to have the dolts submit to police state tactics at home (Patriot Act, NDAA) and constant war in the middle east. PNAC used the British MI6 and the Israeli Mossas to hide behind, but it was an inside job orchestrated by PNAC.
It makes me ashamed to be human!
When will the people take back what is rightfully ours!
The NWO needs people ignorant and afraid.
And we are all allowing this BS to continue.
Of all the red flag events 9/11 is the most audacious example of deceit never pulled off. The fact of it exposes the depth and bredth of the evil that controls our existence.
The links with the bin Ladins and their stock market plays before the event. The hangover of alQuida (the “CIA” base) from the USSR occupation of Afghanistan and it use now in the Arab Spring as an arm of US defence. Rumsfelds missing Billions anounced the very night before the “attack”. The Bush family interest in military support. The Jewish interest in insurance of the towers. The cover-up of the loading of explosives into building 7, the brave souls who took over the plane and ditched it which was supposed to hit building 7, the brazen gaul of those who flicked the switch on that building to cover up the loading of explosives – I mean WTF ??? how did that fall with no contact.
I gotta stop, I’m at work and can feel myself getting angry.
Unfortunately, we truely deserve the world we live in, even if only evidenced by our own inaction.
Commiserations to the families of those lost, god bless those departed on such a shameful exhibition of base and wanton greed.