Counterfeit 2012 Silver Maples?!?! Agh! Hope Not…

[jj83Member]

Am I crazy?

I was cleaning up my room and casually looked up at my coin tubes of 2012 Silver Maples bought from 2 different places… and my eyes caught something… One stack of Maples were shorter than the other.

I pulled all 50 of them out and verified that the stacks really were of different height.  The features appeared to be the same though – gonna have to double check.

Anybody know any good ways to check without specialized equipment?

• This topic was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  jj83.
• This topic was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  jj83.
• This topic was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  jj83.

[Newbie1Member]

I recently passed up opportunity to buy Maples off Kijiji – they where cheap (below spot) and seller wanted to sell them ‘tonight’… I’m so new to this I googled ‘fake maple’ and yes, they’re out there so I passed.  I know sometimes ppl just need cash – but didn’t feel right so I followed my gut and the old adage ‘if it seems too good to be true it probably is’.  I’ll never know if I missed out on a really great deal or if I saved myself a bunch of coin – but as I feel I just don’t have the education to deal safely – I figured I’ll pay the premium and buy from SD/Silver Gold bull or my local coin shop….

Are they all the same year?  Just curious if mint maybe has slight variance year to year so a tube of 2012 would be different then a tube of 2009 say?

Here is a utube that might help – basically filing in this one, but he mentions other videos/tests so you maybe able to find something that works (without wrecking your maple if it is real!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvgCAj_ywjw

[jj83Member]

Hm thanks

 

All of them are 2012′s.

Ya, one tube from local shop another from a popular online retailer.

[MaryBMember]

Weigh each one, use a calipers and measure thickness/diameter and compare it to what the mint says it should be. Magnet test each with a rare earth magnet.

[SilverDuderMember]

check them with a magnet, and check the sound they make

[StackerXMember]

Weight them using a digital weight scale. Costs roughly $10 on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Small-Mini-Digital-Pocket-Scale-1000g-x-0-1g-Weight-Jewelry-Gold-Silver-Coin-OZ-/270994374668?pt=US_Pocket_Digital_Scales&hash=item3f1886000c

[SilverDuderMember]

Well????????

[jj83Member]

Ok – I did do the magnet test, they all had that slight magnetic feel when passing my HD magnets closely to them (but not full attraction).

Checked the veins on the leaf and they appear to be fine… stem looks centred… There’s that little mark on the queen shoulder.

I am going to invest in a scale as well and check the weight … also will see if I can do that “specific gravity test” on them.

 

I see a comment from Uglydog about a tool called fisch.  It looks interesting… $169 for Maples only or $259 for krugs/ASE/Maples… not sure if I want to shell out for a tool like this at the moment without more research and proof.

 

Thanks y’all so far.

[SilverDuderMember]

bring them into the coinshop and have them price them out, they should check them over first.

[OrionMember]

http://www.amazon.com/Silver-Testing-Acid-Liquid-Stone/dp/B004CNFUIS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1360775047&sr=8-1&keywords=silver+tester

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1360775071&sr=1-2&keywords=digital+scale

 

 

Also just become as educated as possible about weights, dimensions, markings, sound, taste…etc. I can usually tell just by the sounding of flipping it with that very resonating high pretty pitch compared to the thud of other metals.

 

[sunray09Member]

Not that this will help…but Canadian Maples…are PERFECT…without flaw.1989 Maples are a little bit different from todays 9999 fine but only in the portrait of the Queen and .999 purity.Weights should be exact. Any large variation ie more than a gram should make you suspect and PASS on any deal.

Know what you are buying or dont buy… be wary of receipts offered as Bona fides…the  Chinese fakers..know no border and they will fake receipts…If you have to do a deal…in haste…do it in a Coinshop so you get a an expert EYE on the transaction. If you have any doubts…DONT BE GREEDY PASS

The money you save might be your own.

[MammothMember]

Mammoth Says…

This discussion should raise some eyebrows among those folks who stack just in case TSHTF and fiat becomes worthless.  Your Maples, ASE’s, Pandas, etc. will only have value if the person whom you are selling them to (or trading with) believes they are real.

 

Another reason to consider stacking circulated ‘Junk Silver.

[MaryBMember]

90% dollars and halves are being counterfeited also…

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