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  • July 9, 2012 at 7:46 PM #9645
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    Just put 520 watts of solar online to supplement my generator. Hope to expand it to over 1,000 watts soon. 464 amp hour battery bank. Ran 8 hours today on solar alone for the computer and radio gear, just switched the computer over to mains power for the night.

    July 9, 2012 at 9:15 PM #9646
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    Mary B  This is excellent   Do your solar panels charge deep cycle batteries and continuous power as well

    July 10, 2012 at 2:40 AM #9670
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    Yes ran the computer and ham gear for 8 hours drawing about 200 watts leaving 300 watts for battery charging.

    July 10, 2012 at 6:45 AM #9671
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    Very nice Mary B. Between the solar panels and generator, you are well ahead of most people. Take advantage of natural solar energy as well as using you panels and generator. South and West curtains open during the winter for natural light and heat, air draft flows through your house during the summer, etc.

    July 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM #9703
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    My third wife had a large cabin in the Colorado mountains.  It was deep in the woods, about 23 miles beyond the end of the nearest power line.   And on the roof were solar panels, which kept a bank of deep cycle (golf cart) batteries charged up.   From there, there were two inverters, producing 120-240 volts ac.  The 240 volts was necessary to run a water well pump, and the 120 volts for the household items like compact flourescent lamps, stereo, TV, ceiling fan, furnace fan, kitchen appliances, etc.

    With a little presence of mind, like not leaving fans or lights on when unnecessary, and not running a bunch of lights and appliances at the same time, you can live very comfortably deep in the mountains.  And 23 miles beyond the end of the nearest power line is definitely off the grid!
    Oh – the kitchen stove and refrigerator ran on propane.  There was a freestanding cast iron woodburning stove in the livingroom.  Everything else was just like any modern suburban home.
    July 11, 2012 at 2:56 AM #9748
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    4×8 foot solar hot air panel I built last summer.

    It supplied 145 degree air on the coldest day last winter of -20f.

    July 11, 2012 at 4:40 PM #9785
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    Very cool MaryB. What are the pipes made of? Soda or beer cans work well also. I think you’re very sharp and will fare well and better than most when the SHTF. LOL. Keep on keeping on!

    July 12, 2012 at 2:36 AM #9815
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    Aluminum flex dryer vent. Battery box for the solar electric

    July 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM #9965
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    Just added another 560 watts of panels,  shipping on the 25th. They are on the boat right now. Now to get 4 more batteries…

    July 14, 2012 at 5:27 PM #9969
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    Damn, Mary, you’re doing good!   Good for you!   Now what was your address again?   We will all be coming over to party in the light when the SHTF.

    July 16, 2012 at 1:00 AM #10012
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    I need about 200 more pounds of cooking wood pellets for the traeger smoker/grill/oven/what do you want cooked? 40 pounds of propane for the camp stove, 100 gallons of gas for the generator(gets cycled thru the lawnmower/snowblower/car at 6 months and replaced).

    July 31, 2012 at 11:03 PM #10844
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    Solar system is finished

     

     

    forsome reason picture posting isn’t working…

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by Avatar of MaryB MaryB.
    August 26, 2012 at 1:01 PM #12491
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    MaryB great work.

    For anyone that is looking to do the same as MaryB, I would suggest that you use a solar tracker with these panels.  By using a solar tracker increases your solar efficiency by 70% – 90%  with less solar panels. It doesn’t have to be motorized, as you can physically move it for sun alignment throughout the day.

    Again MaryB Nice Work!

    73′s

     

     

    August 26, 2012 at 6:16 PM #12507
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    Nice job! Solar panels are expensive compare to the amount of watts they produce. I’ll stay with buying gold and silver and I’m already having hard time buying silver right now. My house especially needs that 4×8 foot solar hot air panel since I live in the north and it’s not fun during winter cause using the electric heater is very expensive!

    August 26, 2012 at 10:24 PM #12527
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    I thought about  a tracker but with winds hitting 65mph+ for 2-3 days at a time in winter and winds hitting 90mph+ once a summer I wanted a solid mount. The solar hot air dropped my heat bill 10% last winter so a decent ROI n a $250 build.

    August 27, 2012 at 12:02 AM #12538
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    Then if that’s the case you are better off using a wind generator than solar panels.  You’ll  get more energy from the 24 to 48 hours of energy production from wind than solar. :-)

     

    73′s

     

     

    August 28, 2012 at 1:55 AM #12642
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    Wind generators require tower work that I can no longer do. Back surgery, right shoulder surgery twice, left hip, right knee, right wrist… I am a mess :-)

    September 5, 2012 at 10:46 AM #13169
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    Nice!

    I built a charger that could be used with a small solar panel to charge a big battery bank.

    I had a vast (12x) charge rate increase, from a very simple open-sourced device I found on the web.

    It’s called a relay charger, and the build details are found HERE: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/

    Not sure if it is free energy but it is very efficient, I was able to OVERcharge a nearly 500 AH bank of deep cycles/ etc

    with a 60W input, whereas the standard charger barely touched the charge level for 110W input.

    It’s a very technical explanation of why and how it works, (but I’m willing to explain)  but in short,

    MaryB could charge an entire bank of batteries with 1 small panel instead of 4  :)

    September 6, 2012 at 1:45 AM #13244
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    Over unity charging has been debunked many times. Unless you have proof setup on lab grade test equipment it is snake oil. MPPT charging is currently the best for solar.

    September 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM #13266
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    well, nowhere in my post did I claim OU (and running the ABSOLUTE numbers I measured against true solar cell and charger efficiency, it seems to _approach_ 100%)  Seems I claimed a 4X greater charge rate.

     

    Just throwing the link up there if anyone wants to see it.

    I, for one, and another, etc :) will have power after the ah-porky-lips

     

    in my ‘day job” I work with ‘lectric all the time, plus tinker with these emerging technologies.

    I’m currently trying to get the BATTERY BANKS out of the equation.

    I Like Your Setup, MaryB, better than what 99.5% of everyone has!

    September 7, 2012 at 2:44 AM #13325
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    MPPT charging runs around 90% efficient (not counting losses in cabling).

    September 7, 2012 at 11:11 AM #13354
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    ahh Nice!

    Thx MB. U have done a nice job on this.

    My setup requires some refinement for public release,

    I’m more of an experimenter.

    September 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM #13424
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    @MaryB

    2 more Q’s for you:

     

    1. What model and size are those batteries? 6V, right?

     

    2. Is the hot air panel made from aluminum dryer vent tube and painted flat black?

    How much was used for the 4×8?

     

    TIA,

    undeRGRound

    September 10, 2012 at 2:45 AM #13461
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    Batteries are US Battery 2200xc’s, paid about $90 each and I have 8. 232 Amp hour 6 volt, I am running a 24 volt system.

    Yup aluminum dryer flex tube, think I used 80 feet. maybe 5 cans of flat black stove paint to take the heat.

    September 10, 2012 at 9:18 AM #13469
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    Nice Price. I got a source of “blems” around $50 each, but it’s just a 65AH deep cycle Interstate Batt. (12V)

    BUT the type for backup power are much better than a “car battery”.  I bought the ones I have for the experiments. Good batt., but I need something like you have.

    As for the passive hot air panels, my dad got a system in the 70′s that was prolly about twice as big, and less efficient (but 2 panels, MAYBE 150 sq. ft. or less)  Worked Great! Between the state and fed. tax credits, he paid about 1/3 of retail, 65% was tax credits.

    NICE Setups! Great info

    thx

     

     

    September 11, 2012 at 2:27 AM #13543
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    There is a simpler version to make that is even more effective using roll type furnace filter material that gets a spray of flat black paint. Needs less electrical energy to push the heat through too. I think Builditsolar.com has the plan or a mention of it.

    September 11, 2012 at 10:00 AM #13559
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    O.O

    Just telling me what and how gives me IDEAS! THANKS!

    Great site, I now have something else than PM’s to look at ;)

     

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