My Timeline – November 27, 2011

[2 OZ.Member]

Last November, just for fun, I decided to try to predict a timeline of events so I jotted down a few of these. I’m not very good at timelines but some of the things happening now kind of follow it. What are your time lines? Mine is as follows:

0-12 Months
- The Euro partially or fully collapses.
- Deflation starts to take hold and commodities prices begin a fall. * Buy silver because you may not be able to get it without a hefty premium.
- U.S. dollar rises as people around flock to Treasuries looking for a safe haven.
- Severe recession/depression starts in Europe.

12-18 Months after the above
-U.S. debt continues to rise (Partial Bailout by the IMF and FED) *Continue to buy silver.
-Euro contagion spreads to U.S. and banks here begin to fail.
- People leave U.S. treasuries and flock to silver/gold.
-FED stars massive printing to inflate their way out of debt. Gold and silver begin a parabolic rise.
- Recession/depression hits U.S. and runaway inflation takes hold.

0-2 Months after the above
- Dollar collapses.
- Price controls are put in place.
- Gun control starts, freedoms are taken away (martial law), arrests made on those with hoarded food and PM’s, etc. Warrants will not be required to search and seize any of your property.
- One World government is formed on the false pretense it will end all wars and one paper currency is adopted.
- China and Russia resist as well as a few Middle East Countries.

This is just a worst case guess. Being totally wrong would be great. I then jotted down a few names to watch. ECB, FED, Soros, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Hilderbergs, Rothchilds, etc.

After reading a few of the posts today, I thought it would be a good time to review what I had written. While not super accurate, events have somewhat followed this. Thoughts please on this timeline or one of your own.

P.S. These were just bullet statements to actual thoughts. It does get very much more detailed.

[HornDogMember]

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Don’t mean to be/get too mushy here   but  i like reading you–a lot.

 

[2 OZ.Member]

Read you’re e-mail HD. Give us a heads up on you. Always looking for new people to help here. Do you have a timeline?

[HornDogMember]

Time line?   lol

[427Member]

Oh 2oz;

What a fat stack you have, I don’t need to be so bold but I love burgers. 

ha ha ha lol TIME LINE?

[427Member]

Dam got a block on the photo 2oz! Google

[silverbullionMember]

2 OZ. Good one. To me it seems like a feasible timeline. All I can add is that I am of the opinion that China and Russia is going to help to officialy form a One World Government.

[silverbullionMember]

lol 427 Nice stack.

[Silver DollarMember]

2 OZ

I buy parts of your timeline. the latter part about martial law etc, I don`t think so. They may lock down financial districts, but the American population still contains plenty of people who would never sit still for that. The law can bairly maintaian control of the criminal element. And that part is debateable. We all need to read more of Thomas Jeffersons work.

The third largest Army in the world is the U.S. veteran population.

[AGXIIKMember]

2 Oz  your first year time line predictions are getting prophetic and the next 1-2 years are also likely, in part or in full, maybe even worse than we can imagine.  The next two years will be pretty chaotic with Europe nationalism making a dangerous situation.  Greece and Spain, along with Italy will likely be in full depression with Germany and the northern tier removing themselves from the Euro. The Euro bond losses will collapse most of the big EU banks with back wash to our big banks  The Fed will likely print to bail out our banks and possibly some EU banks but the amount of funding will be in the tens of trillions.  Inflation will start washing on to our shores. China will be in a hard landing free fall.    The key indicators of Chinese problems are the increase in electrical usage ; now -0- now, and bank lending. Monetary policy is to print and print more.  Russia will weaken due to much lower oil and gas prices with Europe using less fuel due to the depression in that zone. So your notion that inflation will ramp up and people will leave treasuries is clear.  The Fed ZIRP must come to an end since no one will buy our junk bonds, forcing the Fed to buy 100% of the issuances. Rates could easily jump to 10% if any bonds are to be funded.  Just like Spain and Italy paying 6-7%, we will be paying even more—in a Greece-like debt tsunami.

  People will see gold and silver as a safe haven, bumping those prices upwards much like the 1979 time period when real inflation hit 11-12%.  The $50 an ounce silver and $800 an ounce gold were reflective of scarcity and fear buying, piling on before someone bought up the gold and silver.  The 30 year PM price desert will end with the coming problems.  Silver could go to $400, an inflation adjusted price from the 1980 peak.  Gold maybe $4-5,000 an ounce. 

The US Economy will suffer badly due to European failures and a crushing drop in the US equity markets despite the plunge protection team.  Dow and Gold could hit parity at 5,000.   Depending on who is elected, the gun nazis could and should be curbed since we outnumber them 100 to1.  But with a major drop in tax revenues on a personal, corporate and capital gains basis, the governments at  states level will be even more bankrupt.  The national government can print to pay its bills along  with bailouts at every corner of the globe but I don’t thing  the Fed won’t bail out the states.  They will be on their own. 

Martial law? Yes, on a local basis due to lack of food, welfare EBT failures and lost  job hopes.  Currency controls and bank holidays?  We have currency controls now. try to get a foreign account. Don’t even think of trying to roll your silver or gold out in your car   The detection equipment can see what you have in your vehicle.

  I am pretty sure of some of this as some of the TBTF banks will cause bank runs and some real fear factor.  If we get to TEOTHWAKI, Mad Max, Books of Eli, all bets are off.  A few of  my BOB were discussing this and the best place to bivvy.  The head of our group will be emptying some homes next to his by measures best left to your imagination .

 We battle plan for the worst and have set up a 1,200 gallon fuel depot in 55 gallon drums just in case.  Water is not a problem with lake and wells.  Meat is local with deer, elk and wild horses.  BOBs are shooters and know how to dress a deer.  Stocking large amounts of salt is vital  We have medical supplies from a local business and enough lead futures and poppers for a small regional conflict.

 I told him that the ’vil consists of pretty much 75% empty second and vacation homes. I have keys to a couple and Knox Boxes on many so we have nice empty homes to fill with our BOB.   We have Food, guns, ammo, meds, skills and platoon strength men-at-arms and PMs (I am the self  appointed silver bank as my contribution to our efforts) Money to buy important commodities will be vital to the effort.  These are plans for the worst case and there is a chance this will happen if even for a short period period of 1-2 years.  We also have about 3-4 years of long term food stores.  I guess I diverged from predictions to prepper ideals  Sorry

Your time line is close to mine.  These events may come sooner or later but there is a pretty good chance they will transpire  to one degree or level of severity or other.  Keep the faith and stay safe

[2 OZ.Member]

Tried to Google it 427. Couldn’t get there. Had to be funny though.

I agree now SB. Russia and China may help, but they will be the last. They will want to have a large piece of the pie. Remember, I jotted this down last September. I have changed my mind about things but not very much.

Interesting note about the third largest army Silver Dollar. Several moths have passed since I thought about this. Martial law may not happen. I think now when SHTF, Curfews may be imposed (rather than outright Marshall law) for the cities with large riots.

AGX, I have changed my time line but very slightly. Sounds like you’re as ready as anyone. I was just curious of how other people saw events unfolding. One thing that intrigued me was the comment about getting your PM’s out. Does this mean it may be hard to trade locally for a while? I’m glad you went off tangent a little with the prepping stuff. It clears a little path for me to explain some things to a few of the like minds.

Thanks for the replies all. I hope more people chime in. I’d like to compare time lines and maybe come up with one that’s a little closer to real events. So far, several things I jotted down for the first year has come to pass.

Be safe and ready and by all means keep stacking.

[silverbullionMember]

AG Great post. We do I report when the donuts hit the fan?

[AGXIIKMember]

2 OZ  When I mentioned about the transport of precious metals I was thinking along the lines of intercept positions with Fed or DHS troops stopping and inspecting the passenger cars and truck.  You know, just to keep us safe.  Guns, currency, drugs and phyzz are all on the list of things to seize.  With millimeter wave cameras, currency sniffing dogs and metal penetrating detection equipment,  the average thin skinned car would be easy to see through. These instruments are used at the customs border stations.   The chances of getting detected at a border with Canada or Mexico might be pretty high if the US customs wanted to check outbound traffic  Going into Mexico might be easier since US citizens and Mexicans can pass pretty easily with a wave of the hand. I am not sure if the Mexican border guards want to see a US passport.  We used to blow through going south like there was no tomorrow. I have not been to Mexico in several years but expect that it has not changed that much. Mexico would be my  preferred choice for exit since the laws are a little looser and there are probably better places to hide.   Canada?  No so sure there. I have dual national status but Canada and the US seem kind of similar.  Jeff Berwick of the Dollar Vigilante calls Acapulco home and I would trust him more than any of my relatives in my little home town in Victoria BC.  Just call me paranoid.

[2 OZ.Member]

I’ve been called the same but those people are starting to think a little paranoid is not too bad a thing. Thanks for the answer. There’s a lot to think about and I’m trying to cover all angles. As of today, the first part of my time line is looking pretty accurate. I was really hoping I was wrong. We’ll see how it plays out.

[silverbullionMember]

AG I am with you. Rather paranoid, which increases one’s chances of survival, than not paranoid and sitting like a duck ready to be slaughtered.

[ich1baNMember]

Awesome thread 2 Oz…

1 question, does anyone know the name of the LLC or hedgefund that the Rothschilds and Rockefellers recently formed? 

I will drill down into the details and figure out what they are investing in and give you guys insights as to why and how it fits in the timeline.

[2 OZ.Member]

Thanks ich1baN,

I don’t know the hedge fund you are speaking of. Let us know when you find out. My time line is my own and by no means a definite, accurate or somewhat paranoia driven. Seems as if at least the first part of it is somewhat accurate. I really wish it wasn’t but, at least I am preparing as if it were. As AGX says, it’s better to be a year early than a day late.

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