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WHERE TO STORE YOUR PHYZZ ?? !!!

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  • July 11, 2012 at 1:30 PM #9773
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    I just posted this same comment on one of the home page’s stories…….

      Along the lines of “if you don’t hold it, you don’t own it”…I also say that goes for storing it as well…I know alot of places such as Mike Maloney’s Goldsilver.com and Apmex will store it for you in a “secured vault” for a monthly fee…..Who is to say the vault doesn’t close one day and takes your silver and gold with it?? Plus you lost all that money you have been paying for the monthly charge….I say ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS….i’ll say it one more time, ALWAYS take home delivery and store it yourself!!! If that means keeping it under your bed, i still say that is safer than having it in a foreign place where you can’t look at it on a daily basis…. Especially safer if you sleep with a 9MM next to your bed as i do  ;)

    SK

    July 11, 2012 at 3:30 PM #9781
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    SilverKing, under the bed you say?  When our house was broken into back in 2010 there was actually a box of ASE’s under the bed, but the bastards missed it even though they pulled out a bag full of paper (old mail, etc) that was there.

    As to possible hiding places, let me ask a question or two:  How many half-full cans of paint do you have in your garage?  In which can is there a jar filled with PM’s submerged in the paint?

    July 11, 2012 at 4:40 PM #9784
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    I’m fascinated with this thread because I’m not being as careful as I should be.   I’ve thought of stashing my silver in a box of holiday decorations in the basement.  In fact, my girlfriend is a holiday decoration nut, and she has outdoor decorations for all the holidays, including Valentine’s, St. Patrick’s Day and July 4th.  She has a couple hundred cardboard boxes of yard decorations stored in the basement.  When we took an extended road trip recently, I asked her to hide my hoard in the bottom of one of her decoration boxes in the basement.

    I keep thinking of the closing scene of Indiana Jones’ Raiders of the Lost Ark.  You know, where they’re wheeling the boxed up Ark of the Covenant into a vast government warehouse full of other boxed items.   
    I think crooks are lazy people, too lazy to make an honest living.  And so my logic goes, crooks are too lazy to go through dozens and dozens of weathered and worn holiday decorations.
    July 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM #9787
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    A very small false wall in a closet is handy  If you do not need to access your phyzz frequently stack it in an ammo can  A 50 cal can will hold 720 rounds in the plastic tubes. I like metal cans because if you have a fire the steel cans will stay intact  Silver may melt but it will not trickle into the ashes.  720 oz in nearly $20,000    minor carpentry adjustment to a closet side, ceiling with bracing or under the carpeted floor of the closet can work. 

    July 12, 2012 at 1:50 AM #9814
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    Do you own or have exclusive control over a parcel of land?  I think that if you keep it away from your home, agents such as IRS, attorneys for plaintiffs who may sue you, ex-wives and such other evil persons would have a more difficult time finding it.  I’ve seen the remaining swiss-cheese looking places after the DEA and county sheriff have gone through with metal detectors and dogs.  But I think they’re less likely to comb through real estate that they do not connect with you.   

    July 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM #9875
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    +1 for the false wall. I do not believe in using anything that isn’t a part of a structure such as paint cans, totes filled with decorations, etc because even though those things will most likely prevent a burglar from finding your stash, just pretend your entire house was cleared out for some reason – I know it is unlikely, but still, I think it is better to hide your stash inside the building itself so that even if movers came and removed every single object, your stash should remain safely hidden and recoverable only by those who know where it is.

    July 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM #9882
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    The stuff movie scripts are made of!   Suppose there’s a new owner.  Suppose there’s an earthquake and your stash is exposed.  How about a government confiscation of property?  You lose the property in a judgment in a lawsuit.

    The problem with having something with value is, other people will want to take it from you.
    July 13, 2012 at 2:06 AM #9890
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    If you’re wealthy and building a new home, or simply building an addition onto an existing one, you might build in a hardened reinforced concrete SAFE ROOM.   As far as building permit and official knowledge is concerned, you can label it as a wine room or small recording studio.  Then fix it up after the final building inspection.

    http://5election.com/2011/03/18/the-panic-rooms/ 
    Don’t announce intentions to build one, and don’t show plans to anyone other than those professionals involved in its construction. This is not a room you want to brag about. The safe room should be fortified around all six sides of the box and have a single door leading into it. I’ve designed safe rooms that were built like bunkers yet looked a like an elegant dressing room or an art gallery, and others that looked very much like a bank vault with steel re-enforced concrete walls and a steel vault locking door. Typical construction for lower level floors is to reinforce the walls, floor and ceiling with heavy grade wire mesh, steel sheeting, reinforced concrete. On upper levels where weight might be a concern sealed Kevlar, plastics and other light materials are used to prevent an intruder from breeching any part of the room perimeter yet  allow the room to survive a natural disaster.  Some people can’t tolerate the feeling of being enclosed so were designed rooms with offset bullet proof and explosion proof glass windows and skylights. Someone with this type of wealth or exposure would likely be known to the local police department so emergency services would probably reach the residence in less than 20 minutes. Is preferable  to create a room that is invisible and known only to the homeowners. This type of room has seamless doors without visible latches. Part of the security of the safe room is that its secret, once you’ve hidden yourself an intruder should not be able to detect you even though you’re concealed only inches, remember stealth and time is on your side. From within the room you can monitor what’s going in the house call the police, open gates and electronic doors, or turn lighting on or off.
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    July 13, 2012 at 7:37 AM #9892
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    All you guys have great ideas…. Just do not to keep it in a vault 10 states or even 10 countries away from you.  :)   KEEP ON STACKING!!

    SK

    July 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM #9916
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    “I’ve seen the remaining swiss-cheese looking places after the DEA and county sheriff have gone through with metal detectors and dogs.”

    -  -  -  -  -

    So you bury that ammo can say, three feet deep.  Throw 2 feet of dirt back into the hole on top of that, then toss in a couple pieces of scrap metal and fill in the hole the rest of the way.

    Oh – and don’t forget to dig a couple of holes nearby and throw some scrap into those as well.

    July 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM #10205
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    Something fvcked about that last post of mine, and the few above it.  Maybe it’s the PTB trying to discourage folks from prepping.

    August 15, 2012 at 9:09 AM #11493
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    A tip – See the “Otterbox” @ Amazon.com! 15$ Water tight to 150′. Won’t rust and won’t leak

    August 16, 2012 at 12:40 PM #11590
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    Otterbox @ Amazon. keeps what’s inside dry to 150′ underwater. doesn’t rust.

    August 16, 2012 at 4:43 PM #11597
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    I got a good spot at my house if someone is having trouble…just le me know. I wont even charge you a storage fee!

    August 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM #11602
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    Who thinks The Doc should start a storage biz?  They’ve done a bang out job on bullion sales – I think they should open their vault to store for us ‘relative’ small stackers.  Personally, taking the risk off my hands and into the insurance backed hands of someone trustworthy like The Doc seems appealing to me.

    August 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM #11737
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    Drill out the top of a hollow core door. Lowest level of your home. I like a clost door, and always leave it open. A thief will go through closets. If the door is open, they will never operate it.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM #13292
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    Hello all!

    New guy been lurking for all while. Been stacking awhile now, never knew it was called stacking until fairly recently though.

    So my first thought for storage was a floor safe! They are a little pricey, but not overly so when you consider the value of what you are storing in it. If you are even a little bit handy you can install one yourself, so nobody has to know you even have a safe. The average burglar isn’t apt to crack a safe even if they find it under the dresser.

     

    Now if the FEDS are coming in you have a different issue!

     

     

    September 9, 2012 at 8:32 PM #13433
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    I say “no way” on the Doc… Just makes him a bigger target.

    Sure, I’d trust the Doc over most/all other places, and it’s safer from the regular “baddies”

    but when SHTF, Doc will not likely have time to ship ANYTHING, let alone disperse

    everyone’s stash that is in long term storage. FED’s come in and arrest Doc and take all the PM’s.

    Not that they would have a legitimate reason to hold him, but we’re all extremists by the new

    standards, prolly, LOL!

    I’m not a prepper but I hang out with y’all, guilt by association  :D

    October 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM #14728
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    I think safes aren’t as prudent as they are made out to be. It looks like hiding it in plain sight, like in storage boxes along with other everyday items, is the best way. Just make sure not to die with $7 million of it just waiting for the Feds to pounce on.

    October 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM #14763
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    If you have a wood bed with stout bedposts at the corners, you can remove the tops, take a core drill and cut a 2″ diameter hole straight down through the center.  Place your Silver inside, and then replace the top with a wooden cap.

    Not only will your silver stash be safely hidden, but you will also enjoy hearing that merry jingling sound when you are giving the Missus her nightly pounding!

    October 4, 2012 at 2:44 AM #14922
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    I post it in the most secret place you could imagine, and then blab about it on a forum online. :)

    I agree with above that safes are not as safe as people think. It has to be a place that a thief doesn’t even know to look.

    October 4, 2012 at 6:43 PM #14968
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    I have a decoy safe.  It’s screwed down, but not to the point it can’t be ripped out.  In it are several tubes filled with those brass dollars.  Looks convincing.

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